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		<title>By: Eden Journal Blogiversary Celebration &#8211; Postapalooza — Eden Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eden Journal Blogiversary Celebration &#8211; Postapalooza — Eden Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is our political system destined for failure?  What does the future hold? Like the religion post, I was also interested in our political system.  I had heard talk of different political systems, and I wanted to learn more.  I got a little more than I bargained for on this little journey. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is our political system destined for failure?  What does the future hold? Like the religion post, I was also interested in our political system.  I had heard talk of different political systems, and I wanted to learn more.  I got a little more than I bargained for on this little journey. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Watermolen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Watermolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lana, A world like that would be most excellent.  It could well happen, everyday I see more and more people working to improve themselves in a wide variety of ways.  These little improvements on the individual level are the way to improving society as a whole.  It&#039;s up to each of us to make changes in ourselves.  Thanks for dropping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lana, A world like that would be most excellent.  It could well happen, everyday I see more and more people working to improve themselves in a wide variety of ways.  These little improvements on the individual level are the way to improving society as a whole.  It&#8217;s up to each of us to make changes in ourselves.  Thanks for dropping.</p>
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		<title>By: Lana-Dreamfollowers.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lana-Dreamfollowers.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can totally imagine a world like this, Eric! And maybe it will happen much sooner than we think. Awesome post, I could really resonate with what you&#039;ve written. Thanks!
.-= Lana-Dreamfollowers.com´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dreamfollowers.com/love-your-here&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you won’t love THERE if you don’t love HERE first&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can totally imagine a world like this, Eric! And maybe it will happen much sooner than we think. Awesome post, I could really resonate with what you&#8217;ve written. Thanks!<br />
.-= Lana-Dreamfollowers.com´s last blog ..<a href="http://dreamfollowers.com/love-your-here" rel="nofollow">you won’t love THERE if you don’t love HERE first</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Watermolen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Watermolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty, I do dislike all the negativity that is constantly in the news about the two parties disagreeing.  I&#039;ll tell you what, if I hear the word bipartisan one more time...

I have long since given up on watching or listening to the news, in large part due to all the negative politics reported on.  Well, that and all the rest of the negativity the modern day news media spews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty, I do dislike all the negativity that is constantly in the news about the two parties disagreeing.  I&#8217;ll tell you what, if I hear the word bipartisan one more time&#8230;</p>
<p>I have long since given up on watching or listening to the news, in large part due to all the negative politics reported on.  Well, that and all the rest of the negativity the modern day news media spews.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Watermolen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Watermolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quinn, The high level abstract theories interest me, but I try to stay out of the daily political news.  The topics you mention from Gore&#039;s book do sound interesting.

That early form of voting is indeed interesting.  That could very well change some of the political wrangling we see.  Or, I suppose, it could make it worse.  

I think you&#039;re right though, open discussions is the way to go.  We are sure to offend each other (which is a whole other topic,) but if we can work from common ground and find good compromises, we&#039;ll be doing quite well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quinn, The high level abstract theories interest me, but I try to stay out of the daily political news.  The topics you mention from Gore&#8217;s book do sound interesting.</p>
<p>That early form of voting is indeed interesting.  That could very well change some of the political wrangling we see.  Or, I suppose, it could make it worse.  </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right though, open discussions is the way to go.  We are sure to offend each other (which is a whole other topic,) but if we can work from common ground and find good compromises, we&#8217;ll be doing quite well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Watermolen</title>
		<link>http://www.edenjournal.com/461/is-our-political-system-destined-for-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Watermolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radical Royalist, Thanks so much for that information.  I wish I could have come across some info like that when I was poking around the Internet searching for answers.  I should have known to go back to the Greek philosophers when thinking philosophically about politics.  

I&#039;ll tell you one thing that surprised me in my search.  There are far more countries ruled by monarchy that I would have guessed.  Us big headed Americans tend to think that our way is the best way, but in actuality, our way only has 233 years in existence, a mere blip on the time scale of the civilized existence of humanity.  Monarchies go back much, much further.  

One thing I&#039;m not clear on, however, is where the United States government fits in to Aristotle&#039;s forms of government.  Maybe somewhere between Polity and Aristocracy.  

Thanks again for dropping by and contributing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radical Royalist, Thanks so much for that information.  I wish I could have come across some info like that when I was poking around the Internet searching for answers.  I should have known to go back to the Greek philosophers when thinking philosophically about politics.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you one thing that surprised me in my search.  There are far more countries ruled by monarchy that I would have guessed.  Us big headed Americans tend to think that our way is the best way, but in actuality, our way only has 233 years in existence, a mere blip on the time scale of the civilized existence of humanity.  Monarchies go back much, much further.  </p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m not clear on, however, is where the United States government fits in to Aristotle&#8217;s forms of government.  Maybe somewhere between Polity and Aristocracy.  </p>
<p>Thanks again for dropping by and contributing. <img src='http://www.edenjournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patty @ Why Not Start Now?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty @ Why Not Start Now?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I would have liked to have seen that good manly tantrum. You go guy! And you are speaking to my heart here. I have said for years that we need to get rid of political parties. They are doing us in! So why doesn&#039;t anyone listen to us????
.-= Patty @ Why Not Start Now?´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://whynotstartnow.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/what-the-super-bowl-taught-me-about-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What the Super Bowl Taught Me About Life&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I would have liked to have seen that good manly tantrum. You go guy! And you are speaking to my heart here. I have said for years that we need to get rid of political parties. They are doing us in! So why doesn&#8217;t anyone listen to us????<br />
.-= Patty @ Why Not Start Now?´s last blog ..<a href="http://whynotstartnow.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/what-the-super-bowl-taught-me-about-life/" rel="nofollow">What the Super Bowl Taught Me About Life</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: RadicalRoyalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RadicalRoyalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Basically it identified the following political systems: Monarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy, Republic, and Anarchy.  It then said that Oligarchy and Repubilc are the only two viable systems.&lt;/i&gt;

The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) stated that &quot;The true forms of government…are those in which the one, or the few, or the many govern, with a view to the common interest: 
1. A Monarchy. That is, a government a government run by one person. 
2. An Aristocracy. Government by the few. 
3. A Polity. We now call this a Constitutional Democracy.

However, to these three forms of good government, three forms of bad government correspond:
1. A Tyranny. That is, a monarchy ruled by an antagonistic monarch. 
2. An Oligarchy. That is, a rule by a few corrupt men. 
3. A Democracy. That is, rule by the masses.
Of the three deviations, tyranny is the worst, and mob rule is the least evil.

A King or a Queen under a Constitutional Monarchy is never obliged to any political party like a president is. They are not elected and they don&#039;t belong to any party, therefor nobody can acuse them of supporting a specific group or only the decisions/ideas innitiated by a group. They are above all minor or major political clinches/arguments and only their prestige is what calm down spirits, not their inexistent powers.
.-= RadicalRoyalist´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://radicalroyalist.blogspot.com/2010/02/islamic-republican-justice-system-los.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Basically it identified the following political systems: Monarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy, Republic, and Anarchy.  It then said that Oligarchy and Repubilc are the only two viable systems.</i></p>
<p>The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) stated that &#8220;The true forms of government…are those in which the one, or the few, or the many govern, with a view to the common interest:<br />
1. A Monarchy. That is, a government a government run by one person.<br />
2. An Aristocracy. Government by the few.<br />
3. A Polity. We now call this a Constitutional Democracy.</p>
<p>However, to these three forms of good government, three forms of bad government correspond:<br />
1. A Tyranny. That is, a monarchy ruled by an antagonistic monarch.<br />
2. An Oligarchy. That is, a rule by a few corrupt men.<br />
3. A Democracy. That is, rule by the masses.<br />
Of the three deviations, tyranny is the worst, and mob rule is the least evil.</p>
<p>A King or a Queen under a Constitutional Monarchy is never obliged to any political party like a president is. They are not elected and they don&#8217;t belong to any party, therefor nobody can acuse them of supporting a specific group or only the decisions/ideas innitiated by a group. They are above all minor or major political clinches/arguments and only their prestige is what calm down spirits, not their inexistent powers.<br />
.-= RadicalRoyalist´s last blog ..<a href="http://radicalroyalist.blogspot.com/2010/02/islamic-republican-justice-system-los.html" rel="nofollow"></a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Is our political system destined for failure? What does the future &#8230; &#124; australianews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is our political system destined for failure? What does the future &#8230; &#124; australianews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] simply a federal constitutional monarchy under a parliamentary democracy. &#8230;   Excerpt from: Is our political system destined for failure? What does the future &#8230;   Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this interests you you might want to read Al Gores assault on reason. The idea behind the book is that our system of governments breaking down because the national dialog (the news media) has shifted from a two way channel (newspapers with there letters collums) to a one way deliver of information (television with its high cost of production limiting accesses to the rich). He the goes on to lay out the internet as a way to fix this when coupled with education.

It is interesting to note that when the U.S. was first founded that the president was the person with the most votes and the vice president was the person with the second most votes. This meant that quite often these offices were filled by people from different parties.

I think the best rout to reach the place you talk about at the end of the post is this: Talk about politics, talk about the issues and get others talking. It is OK if we offend each other a bit as long as we work from there towards a place we can agree.
.-= Quinn´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://qupfromtheashes.blogspot.com/2010/02/getting-thorn-out.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Getting the thorn out&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this interests you you might want to read Al Gores assault on reason. The idea behind the book is that our system of governments breaking down because the national dialog (the news media) has shifted from a two way channel (newspapers with there letters collums) to a one way deliver of information (television with its high cost of production limiting accesses to the rich). He the goes on to lay out the internet as a way to fix this when coupled with education.</p>
<p>It is interesting to note that when the U.S. was first founded that the president was the person with the most votes and the vice president was the person with the second most votes. This meant that quite often these offices were filled by people from different parties.</p>
<p>I think the best rout to reach the place you talk about at the end of the post is this: Talk about politics, talk about the issues and get others talking. It is OK if we offend each other a bit as long as we work from there towards a place we can agree.<br />
.-= Quinn´s last blog ..<a href="http://qupfromtheashes.blogspot.com/2010/02/getting-thorn-out.html" rel="nofollow">Getting the thorn out</a> =-.</p>
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